The Ultimate Qwan Din Long Pole (Luk Dim Boon Quan)
There is no ETA on these poles coming back into stock. We have been unable to find true qwan din on the market for some time now - so they could be out of stock for a long time.
For real Wing Chun practitioners this is a dream pole! You should order this pole immediately if you want one, they are very rare and never last long once in stock! On average, less than 40 a year are available.
Qwan Dim (Quan Dim) is a heavy dense wood that is commonly used in making oars, like the long oars in the sampan, and it can be put into water permanently and will not rot. They are also heavy and flexible (imagine the long oars rowing against water constantly).
According to Wing Chun legends, the martial art was partially updated during the time its practitioners were part of the Red Boat Operas. This is the period of time in which the long pole was added as a weapon into the Wing Chun system. Considering these boats used long poles made from Qwan Dim to help with their movement and navigation, we believe this is the wood of the original Wing Chun Lum Dim Boon Kwan (Six and a Half Point Pole, Dragon Pole, or Long pole).
This pole is approximately 9 feet and is slightly tapered. You can't find such a tapered pole anywhere else in the world. Technically, the poles should be longer than this - up to 15 feet according to Yip Man - but due to the scarcity of the wood and current UPS, FedEx, DHL, and USPS shipping regulations, we can only make and ship foot poles that are under 108 inches.
When we first starting carrying these poles, we smashed them repeatedly on concrete floors to verify that they do not break. (We'd never recommend abusing your pole needlessly like we did, especially if you want it to last a long time). Many poles on the market today snap upon impact (especially at these lengths) and can be very dangerous to training partners and yourself. You should never have this problem with your pole.
The 9 foot poles normally weigh-in at 5-6 lbs. Tip is 1" Base varies from 1 1/4 inch to 1 3/4 inch. As the poles are hand made from limited wood sources the length does vary from about 106-108 inches.
Poles should be stored vertically (do not lean your pole against a wall or let it lie flat or it could warp).
Qwan Din turns from a medium brown color to a dark color fairly quickly. This is normal and you can see the change happening in the pictures. This effect is quickened by the oils in your hands when you use the pole.
A Tip from Buick: "For Qwan Din long poles, the protection layer of lacquer is to protect the surface, upon receiving of the pole, the user if he cares about the pole, he can use sand paper to sand off the existing layer of lacquer, and use RAW pork fat - NOT LARD, but raw fat cut up from pork chop, and rub it on the naked wood surface, this will give ultimate protection to the long pole, and a very smooth grip feeling. We can't possibly do it from here because we have to ship them from country to country."
Note on Availability: Qwan Din is a very hard wood to obtain for long poles and currently there are no good sources of wood available. As soon as the trees grow and mature we'll be able to offer these poles again, but that may take a while! So if the poles are available and you want one order it right away!
Wood is not indestructible. Poles will always break if hit hard enough.
"Smash Training" is (basically speaking) where you are slamming the tip of the pole into the ground as hard as you can - usually in an attempt to hit something (walnuts, coins, chalk, etc) It is a form of training accuracy and power that some lineages perform. Of course, such training quite often breaks poles. We test all of our poles for smash training to see how easily they break. In order for us to recommend a pole for smash training we have determined that it needs to be very strong (have a high Janka rating usually), but still with some flexibility so it does not snap, and it needs to be a little thicker than the typical pole. That extra thickness makes a huge difference. For the test we simply smash the pole 20 times into the ground with as much force as possible - rotating it slightly with each hit so any structural weakness are tested...
Suitability: This pole is a normal thickness, so it is not thick enough (we recommend 1/2 inch thicker poles all the way around) for this training. It is okay for form work, partner pole work, work with swords, exercises, etc. We tested these poles for smash training and they did not break. Still, due to the normal thickness we do not recommend them for that purpose. Overall these our our favorite poles. They are great for precision hitting, are heavy, flexible, and hold up well in hard application.
Warping / Warranty / Replacement:
- Short version: When you get the pole check it out right then and
there to make sure it is okay (not warped and is strong). If you don't notify us of an issue
immediately the pole is non-replaceable and non-refundable. The makers guarantee the poles, not us, but we will help get you a new one ASAP if there is an issue upon arrival.
- Long Version: All poles are checked for straightness before shipping and
shipped in a narrow tube (warped poles will not fit!). They are also
stored properly in the warehouse and most are photographed for evidence
of straightness. We are very conscious of the need to keep the poles
straight. We consider a pole "warped" if an edge of the tip is not in
line with the center of the base - so your pole would not arrive warped
where the tip is totally out of alignment of the base. What causes
poles to warp is typically changes in humidity. For example, we ship
from about a 50-60% humidity environment. If you are in 80% humidity
then the wood will absorb the moisture in the surrounding air and
expand. It if does not expand uniformly then it warps. The same applies
if your humidity is 20% and it sheds moisture in your environment.
Being the nature of wood, there is absolutely nothing we can do about
that... It is just the way things work. We will work with people to
replace a warped or damaged pole, but we have to be notified the day you get the pole and with clear photographic evidence. If you wait, then we can't tell if neglect or another factor (like humidity changes) caused the warp. We also ask that you check the pole for strength the day you receive it.
Wood can and does break, but in order to determine if a pole is flawed
upon arrival or damaged over time in training (including shocking it in
the air) or by environmental changes (gets too brittle) you must test it
immediately based on the suggested use for that wood type. We cannot
replace a pole after 1 week. Lastly, please note that poles are
technically guaranteed by the maker, not by us, but we will get you new
ones if there is an issue upon arrival.